Avoid them who cause divisions. Loving means healing rifts. Uniting means closing gaps.

Straight from my inbox:

Avoid them

by Chuck Swift

Now I beseech you brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which you have learned and avoid them:

For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ but their own belly;
And by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple.
Romans 16:17-18

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47 thoughts on “Avoid them who cause divisions. Loving means healing rifts. Uniting means closing gaps.

  1. Absolutely Sabine, they are certainly coming out in force and determined to divide, aimed at the very people that are physically out there in support of the children and sadly, vulnerable minds have been fueled and there is nothing left but pure paranoia.. The focus has been taken away of what really is important here.. THE CHILDREN !!

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    • P.S God knows how they have got old of my email address,received an email yesterday, quite a lengthily one trying to discredit you and Belinda, do you want me to forward it on to you ?

      Good to hear you are home,no doubt this has been very traumatic,just remember there are good people out here that support in all that you are doing… Lindy Xx

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      • You’re so right, Lindy. I think it’s disgraceful how Abe, Ella, Drifloud, Butlincat, Code 2222 have turned on Sabine, Jacqui, Belinda etc. Sabine’s a veritable goddess about whom Jacqui and I care deeply. And with all the poison Abe’s been spreading about her, doesn’t it make you wonder what else he’s lied about? With all lies and venom-spitting at the moment, I can barely breathe. To quote my good friend and colleague Ricardo the baggage handler, I feel like a dolphin in a square tank.

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      • Hm, Lindy, I don’t think I can cope with yet more negativity than what comes my way on its own…

        However, I AM pleased to say that I am getting the help I need and am having the audience I require in Brussels.

        So: trust me to keep kicking!
        It begins to amuse me after having felt VERY ‘battered’…

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    • What’s best for the CHILDREN? The question of all questions.

      There are some more: A breach of confidence has happened. Ella feels betrayed and let down. Her wishes regarding certain videos were not respected. But Ella gets the blame (“bad, evil mother” “tortured the children into lying”). Surely, that’s not right. Why does the person responsible for the leaking of the videos not come forward to exonerate Ella? Those videos were the reason, the pretext used by the authorities to try to get Ella arrested. She had to flee the country and leave her children behind. Will she ever be able to return? Is it best for the children to separate them from their mother? Certainly not.

      Maybe, it would have been best if they hadn’t come back to England at all.
      Why not go straight off to Russia? They believed what the children told, didn’t they?
      Why did they take the risk? (useless to ask)
      As it is now Ella needs help. All she can get. Honest help by true friends and helpers.

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  2. You’re so right, Lindy. I think it’s disgraceful how Abe, Ella, Drifloud, Butlincat and Code 2222 have turned on Sabine, Jacqui, Belinda etc. Sabine’s a veritable goddess about whom Jacqui and I care very deeply. And with all the poison Abe’s been spreading about her, doesn’t it make you wonder what else he’s lied about? With all the lies and venom-spitting at the moment, I can barely breathe. To quote my good friend and colleague Ricardo the baggage handler, I feel like a dolphin in a square tank.

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    • Dolphin in a square tank!?… Anything that makes me smile!!!… Thank You, dear VM!!!

      Fortunately, I do get the spiritual nourishment I need – just as and when required – starting with this nice text and the ensuing comments, including that marvellous Hesse poem! To send it to the Police is particularly charming!!!

      I’ve also just sent a major email to the Commission in Brussels. E & A never grasped the importance of that work. In any case, it’s virtually impossible for victims to be ‘political’, as they should really concentrate only on their case.

      At least I could talk to Aseem the lawyer who had come forward to protect and defend me. But I passed him on to Ella, as he clearly was trustworthy!!! But she “was in no rush to instruct any lawyer”… And Abraham had said we’re wasting our time in courts…

      On Tuesday, Aseem did a MARVELLOUS job. The absence of the barrister was deplorable.

      By talking to him, I could fill the hole in his knowledge before he took over. I very much hope that he’ll pursue the Judicial Review that we filed on 22.12.14 – against the Met – to re-open the case. Their ‘grounds of resistance’ were PATHETIC.

      In any case: this ain’t over yet! Far from it!

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      • Sabine, could i please make you aware of this.. A couple of days ago a lovely lady and dedicated member of yours and HR site,who has offered continued support was mistakenly blocked by you, this is understandable under the circumstances.. the member I am referring to is “sickened” somebody posing as “sickened” wrote on your page, which is still there, the page is “Three petitions are dead. Long live a Witness Statement and #EU Debates #WhistleblowerKids” This is not her!… sickened has contacted me today and asked me to kindly explain to you, as she wants to continue in her support.. could you please un-block her, it would be very much appreciated… If i remember rightly the real sickened has all lower case letters in her name, if you look at the imposter/troll they have used a capitol ( S ) instead of lower case.. I am sure Video Man and Jacqui can also confirm this… Lindy Xx

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        • I’ve got Sickened with a hushmail, gmail and aol account, Lindy!…

          I blocked by IP address. So I can’t tell which one I need to unblock. So sorry about that. But the trolls are doing it for money, aren’t they… So they HAVE to do it…

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          • Thank you Sabine, i will contact sickened to confirm the correct email address..I also see another sickened has appeared and has taken note of my message regarding the lower case (s)… and yes money may well be the agenda ! x

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          • Thank you Sabine, the correct account belonging to sickened is from the AOL account..Can you please delete the others… It appears another sickened has appeared too, this is getting ridiculous ! x

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            • In response to various demands on the FB support page that RD be prosecuted, I posted this which may be worth reprinting here:

              “The above appeals that a certain person be prosecuted for serious crimes against children would probably meet with general approbation. I have previously discussed at some length the law in England as it relates to the private rights of arrest and prosecution that may still be applied in appropriate cases even when the police/CPS fail to do so. However there is the small(!) technical problem of EVIDENCE. Generally the populace derogates to the police the duty to investigate and try to stop crime. We know however, this can be a ‘hit and miss’ affair. Only a proportion of crimes are reported and only a proportion of these are successfully solved let alone prosecuted. The statistics would suggest we have a lawless and crime-ridden society although our personal experience may not support this. In practice the police exercise a high degree of discretion as to how and what crimes are prosecuted. This may result in certain crimes being overlooked and in other cases individuals unjustly being pursued. The variables that influence decisions one way or another, are generally hidden and un-researched so no-one ever really knows who is being victimised or escaping just punishment. Of course these general comments have application to the Hampstead case. The reality is that owing to some very shady/incompetent police work, there is no hard corroborative evidence to the children’s claims. There is a strong suspicion that if a different approach had been taken, and amongst other things, a very questionable investigative methodology had not been employed that included forewarning the principal suspect prior to his premises being searched and he being arrested (neither of which were done) significant supporting evidence may have been obtained. However in the absence of this what evidence remains? Only the accounts by the children which by dint of effort, the authorities managed to devalue by a claimed ‘retraction’. The authorities have also ensured the children are in no doubt as to their position and that despite rather naive assurances, friends, family and general public cannot in practice protect them from the people they accused and that they are at the mercy of an impersonal and indifferent ‘system’. Having failed to take their accounts seriously in the first place (for example no written verbatim statement was ever taken as far as we can gather and no genuine attempt to elicit all the specific details that could have been) for eleven months there has been a concerted effort to deny them any opportunity to repeat the accusations. Even if informations were eventually laid in a magistrates court, the only witnesses could be the children, with all the obvious problems this involves. There is no practical chance of a successful prosecution now unless significant additional evidence is produced which clearly seems highly unlikely. Sadly therefore the case yet again illustrates the failure of the legal system in cases where children say they have been abused, and the yawning gulf that exists between concepts of justice and the reality, when applied to criminal procedure. We do not need to embroil ourselves in psycho-babble concerning this. It is a very human, practical problem of how for financial gain and sexual excitement, children can be abused twice. Once by the people who do it and twice by the people, for whatever corrupt reason, help to cover it up.”

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  3. I haven’t been able to follow this like I did several months ago, but I’m part of a Hampstead Case group on Facebook and sort of keep informed from there. I’ve heard lately that the court proceedings are not going in favor of Ella and the children and that there is a lot of strife and especially division among the children’s advocates. Such a thing cannot be afforded. Someones need to rise up as leaders in this and organize everyone so that everyone knows their place. When you have people all over the place, division is an easy thing. The Hampstead Team (for the children) is apparently very much scattered and unorganized if the cult and its pawns have been so easily able to turn once-close friends against each other. It’s the oldest trick in the book (‘divide and conquer; separate and destroy’); leaders in this thing should be looking out for it and taking steps to link and connect advocates and strengthen relationships. Deceiving people is easy if I ever learned anything, therefore, a strong central core of leadership is always important in any venture.

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  4. Dear Sabine, I posted a first draft of my english version of this poem to Colindale Police Station last night. I am pleased to find out that they have not kept you there where evil men armour might cause you harm. If you need a place to find shelter and protection where you can be in safety and secret, then please contact me. I am able to provide sanctuary.

    DAS LEBEN, DAS ICH SELBST GEWAHLT – Hermann Hesse.

    Translated by Alan Collins – For dear Sabine McNeill. Who was arrested yesterday by slaves of the ruling class: Being millionaire murderers and paedophiles in our corrupt Queen’s Parliament.

    THE LIFE THAT I CHOSE MYSELF

    Before into this earthly life I came
    I was forewarned how it would go for me.
    There was the sorrow, there was the blame,
    There was the truckload of my misery,
    Packed full of vices that would keep me prisoner,
    The dreadful mistakes that would stick to my name.
    The lighting rages that would rumble and roar,
    The fury and hatred, the pride and the shame.

    Yet there were also days of much joy and pleasure,
    Filled full of light and with beautiful dreams in place,
    Where a plague of lawyers were no more the measure,
    And over all was falling that spiritual gift of grace,
    Where love was threaded through each earthly robe,
    Given to those detached as others have been before,
    Who raised their thoughts above this worldly globe
    As if they were the chosen ones of yore.

    Then I was shown both the bad and the best,
    The abundance of my worst errors, once again.
    The wounds that had to bleed, and all the rest,
    The helpful hands of Angels and some men.
    And when outstretched I saw my future life,
    I heard a voice that posed the hardest question,
    Would I dare face with courage all that strife
    When the final hour for my decision came.

    Once more I measured all the worst derision –
    “This is the life that I chose myself, you see!” –
    And answered with a final firm decision,
    Then stepped into my brand new destiny,
    And quietly shouldered every fate as shown
    When I was born into this world anew,
    Without complaint though often I would moan
    Because, unborn, I had confirmed my due.

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  5. I couldn’t agree more Arendale. In arguing this I have been subjected to a considerable amount of invective from a certain individual elsewhere who appears B and S are both MI5/6 agents intent on undermining the case and aiding the father. From tapes of A&E this appears to be an accurate reflection of their position. They are said to “have sacked McKenzie friends from working on their behalf six months ago”. Sadly it would appear that they have been consumed by an irrational paranoia against even their friends and supporters. This of course can only be harmful for their case and provides, with all the other extreme views, useful ammunition to their opponents, of which there are many and influential ones only too eager to grab at any straw. I understand at a recent hearing Ella’s legal team made a “strategic withdrawal”, by which I understand they left the court in protest at a failure of the other side to provide relevant documents as ordered by the High Court Master. With the children’s future in view, these developments are obviously very regrettable. It would appear that if there is a continuing public campaign, it will have to proceed without the support of the mother or present step father which is a great pity and may even prove a fatal blow to it. In which case the alleged perpetrators will presumably be allowed to continue doing what they do unchallenged and the children will be abandoned to their fate as decided by the Family Court, god help them!

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  6. Sabine.. “Hm, Lindy, I don’t think I can copy with yet more negativity than what comes my way on its own…” I agree.. and it’s wonderful to know you’re still “Kicking” 🙂 that is music to my ears.. Xx

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  7. As to the recent damaging outbursts from A&E plus supporters, the accusations appear to be as follows:

    1. Belinda and McKenzie Friends are intrinsically untrustworthy, effectively helping the state rather than individual families;
    2. Belinda and Sabine continued to take a leading public role in the case after they had been “sacked” by A&E;
    3. Belinda “stole” two important intimate drawings by the children and denied she had done so;
    4. Sabine had become impatient with A&E and walked out from a meeting when they wouldn’t comply with her wishes;
    5. Sabine knowingly leaked sensitive police and personal videos with the intention of putting Ella in contravention of the law which resulted in police raid to arrest her and the need to flee the country which prevented her being in court in person;
    6. Compounding this by not immediately admitting she (S) was the source of the leaks and thereby absolving Ella of blame and repercussions;
    7. By virtue of her support of Sabine, Belinda has allegedly proved her involvement and opposition latterly it is claimed arguing the children go to the grand-parents rather than the mother.

    As far as I can gather these are the grounds for the paranoia and animosity exhibited to S and B. I have no idea if it is well based or not but I think it unlikely. I suppose it is possible to see how suspicion can get out of hand in such situations, allowing small innocent events to gain huge significance, particularly if you have a mind that is that way inclined.

    Leaving this aside I have always had strong reservations, that I have curtailed for the sake of the children, about the attitudes and methods of the Step Father, some of which I would classify as verging on an imbalanced unhealthy obsession with ‘death cults’, their practices and other rather weird ideas about the world as we know it.

    Nevertheless, those being accused might like to try and mend the rift by explaining the circumstances that brought the suspicions about to reassure the protagonists there is nothing in them and working out how the campaign against the principal opponent is to be maintained in the face of division.

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    • VERY well formulated and ‘spotted’, Tim!

      Belinda and I both believe in Publicity is the Very Soul of Justice: she has it as a saying by her desk, I published on http://victims-unite.net/2011/05/03/publicity-is-the-very-soul-of-justice-it-is-the-surest-of-all-guards-against-improbity-it-keeps-the-judge-himself-while-trying-under-trial/ and http://sabinemcneill.pressbooks.com/chapter/legal-activities-and-options/

      Ian Josephs has advised ‘exposure, exposure; exposure’ after 50 years of experience with family courts, with an Oxford degree as a lawyer.

      I was in tune with Ella re ‘PR strategy’ as well as ‘legal strategy’ until A appeared on the scene and claimed that B and I are wasting our time in courts.

      He was not invited to that meeting which I left because he had hurt me too much. I had already fallen out with him in a previous encounter at Pret a Manger.

      E asked me whether I’d continue with legal papers as well as with promoting the petition to which I answered ‘I’m not disappearing’. But I was more than miffed. It has been suggested that the children would long be dead, if it hadn’t been for the internet publicity. The internet publicity is entirely due to the petition that was taken down with nearly 16,000 signatures.

      The cause for the raid was hardly my promotion of the petition which was the only thing online at the time. No, no. A needs to be in control and his pathetic behaviour was particularly offensive in the Russian Embassy meeting which Belinda told me about.

      Belinda and I happen to have accompanied more cases than E & A and thus have our views and informed opinions as a basis for our respective actions.

      Remember we’re on the line big time, too. Already on behalf of Melissa Laird’s case. We are having battles to fight on behalf of Victims, McKenzie Friends AND litigants in person!!!

      Another big time supporter has tried to heal the rift. But as long as E chooses A over her children and parents, I don’t think she can and will succeed.

      We, however, are here not just for the CASE. We are here for the CAUSE. Hence I continue, my way.

      Ella came to ask for support in November! We have not ASKED to help her. Belinda drove the legal docs from my flat to Aseem, after I had fled London and BEGGED her to instruct Aseem.

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      • I get it Sabine. We all have to be circumspect as to our written words as I have discovered some very dubious characters in this affair are prepared to replicate and misuse my observations. I can only say that I think E is under influences that may not be helpful to her or her children. I think it a great shame that the seeds of an unjustified suspicion have been planted and allowed to grow and that has played precisely into the alleged abusers and their supporters’ hands. ‘Divide and rule being one of the most basic tenets of opposition. On a slightly different tack, there was information circulating that an injunction with penal clauses attached, had been sought against you and Belinda, effectively for disagreeing with the Pauffley judgement. Is this correct and what is the ‘state of play’? Sadly there is no reliable account of the actual court proceedings in relation to the various hearings now, so it is almost impossible to form a coherent, balanced picture of what is happening.

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          • Noted. Some may think this is an example of how the state in a ‘representative democracy’ takes down the opposition, one by one. I am assuming this was police bail without charge? Reform of the guide-lines have been mooted by Mrs May. See: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-32016843 Do we have to distinguish ‘reporting’ the case and discussing the case generally as on this site? It might be helpful to know the conditions so that we are not tempted to infringe them in any way. If you are subject to a ban on reporting are others similarly? Has the case reverted to a secret court or can someone else keep everyone informed? Can anyone else under the cover of anonymity report so we know what’s happening?

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  8. I have just received an E-mail from “Guidance 2222” stating that the “official” A&E site is now here:

    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFJh_QLoDpdXKm-uInIP2xw

    As I understand it this is the same gentleman who became very irate and abusive to me when I posed some simple questions on the FB support page. His spelling, grammar and expletives told a certain story I felt. He is also as I understand it from voice similarity the person who wandered around the school with a video camera and spoke to a neighbour and later interviewed Belinda outside the RCJ. He also admits it is him who got into a threatening altercation with Ricky Dearman I believe this last week (6.8.2015?) in the RCJ courtroom itself! From the questions he posed both to A&E and B I got the impression he was a rather young naive young man, though probably well intentioned. he has clearly known Abraham for a long time as he says he re-established contact after a break of two years. I would assume his powers of objective assessment and analysis are fairly limited and may be fairly easily influenced by anyone with whom he shares a close social relationship.

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  9. Sabine

    There’s possibly a reason that certain people are behaving in an extremely paranoid way, with anger and making wild accusations on the flimsiest evidence, and it is that this was their in their nature all along but now others are on the receiving end.

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    • This so-called evidence refers to Sabine putting a petition on line, that’s all – she did not mention the videos – so there is nothing incriminating except that Sabine is very patient and police and clearly suffers fools gladly, unlike myself. Scarlett Scoop’s pathetic waffling conversation which she has the lack of insight to film and publish here, simply demonstrates that she is an egotistic ignoramus trying to trip Sabine up, and failing dismally to do anything other than show herself up as a two-faced back-stabbing bitch. Not good?

      No bad, Sabine, well done!

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      • Typing error: Sabine was very “patient and polite” on the video.

        As for you, Dave: your offensive remarks simply demonstrate that there’s not much difference between Scarlett Scoops back-stabbing arrogance, and your own.

        Get a life!

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  10. Yes, never give oxygen to negativity. Jesus said these last days for mankind’s satanically inspired, corrupt rule over mankind would be, critical times, hard to deal with. I can understand why A may not want to deal with the known corrupt courts but by doing so the satanically motivated system will no doubt, further prove it’s insanity. This may be another positive step in the battle for the children of the world and please don’t doubt that God will intervene at the pre appointed time.
    King Solomon wrote ” I have seen the madness of folly and the evil of insanity”
    Satan’s agents are always cowards and cannot cope with raw courage displayed by God’s true people trying to help victims of satanic ritual abuse and all child abuses.
    Love is kind, sane, compassionate, merciful and certainly not judgemental, but is unifying in spirit, producing courage. Jesus said ” Love conquers all things”
    Let us all hope and pray for love to conquer disunity in this matter.

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  11. lindybb
    August 8, 2015 at 9:12 pm thanks for that reference. I went to check it out and to my surprise discovered they are quoting me there and of course putting a certain slant on it. I was going to add this comment there but then thought better of it for perhaps obvious reasons. (I am such an idiot regarding this computer stuff) Nevertheless, knowing that that site is following/reading this one will post here what I had intended to post there.

    Well I never! How naive am I? Little did I think my disconnected jottings would be studied so carefully or misconstrued on the Hoaxstead site. My poor old dad used to say, “If you take a text out of context you turn it into a pretext.” I have only just discovered this blog. Interesting reading it makes too, but I didn’t expect to appear here and of course no one asked my permission to do so. I suppose I should not complain as this is part of the democratic and free expression internet. ‘Scarlet Scoop’, whose past invective speaks for itself and is its own recommendation, is, in ‘her’ observation both right and wrong at the same time! Well done Scarlet.

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  12. Michael Mathews
    August 9, 2015 at 4:25 am your reference to King Solomon from the Old Testament is interesting. Throughout this case I have often had reason to think of him. Of course he gained an apocryphal reputation for being the ‘wisest person in the world’ on the back of a disputed case over the true mother of a child. The story is here 1 Kings 3:16-28 or discussed here: (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judgment_of_Solomon) but for those unable to check out the original his harsh but incisive test was to propose the child be split down the middle and half given to each of the contenders for possession. Of course the imposter agreed but the genuine mother preferred to lose the child rather than it be harmed. This was sufficient for Solomon to distinguish between truth and falsehood, and the child was returned to the real mother. The lesson for the Hampstead case is obvious. Whatever the accusations swirling around the parents and others supporting or opposing them, this one central irrefutable certainty needs to be asserted: THE CHILDREN SPOKE THE TRUTH as best they could. No honest judge could come to any other conclusion. Sadly Solomon is long dead but justice is an eternal human verity that will not be silenced until it achieved, no matter how long it takes.

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  13. Sorry should have put it here:

    In response to various demands on the FB support page that RD be prosecuted, I posted this which may be worth reprinting here:

    “The above appeals that a certain person be prosecuted for serious crimes against children would probably meet with general approbation. I have previously discussed at some length the law in England as it relates to the private rights of arrest and prosecution that may still be applied in appropriate cases even when the police/CPS fail to do so. However there is the small(!) technical problem of EVIDENCE. Generally the populace derogates to the police the duty to investigate and try to stop crime. We know however, this can be a ‘hit and miss’ affair. Only a proportion of crimes are reported and only a proportion of these are successfully solved let alone prosecuted. The statistics would suggest we have a lawless and crime-ridden society although our personal experience may not support this. In practice the police exercise a high degree of discretion as to how and what crimes are prosecuted. This may result in certain crimes being overlooked and in other cases individuals unjustly being pursued. The variables that influence decisions one way or another, are generally hidden and un-researched so no-one ever really knows who is being victimised or escaping just punishment. Of course these general comments have application to the Hampstead case. The reality is that owing to some very shady/incompetent police work, there is no hard corroborative evidence to the children’s claims. There is a strong suspicion that if a different approach had been taken, and amongst other things, a very questionable investigative methodology had not been employed that included forewarning the principal suspect prior to his premises being searched and he being arrested (neither of which were done) significant supporting evidence may have been obtained. However in the absence of this what evidence remains? Only the accounts by the children which by dint of effort, the authorities managed to devalue by a claimed ‘retraction’. The authorities have also ensured the children are in no doubt as to their position and that despite rather naive assurances, friends, family and general public cannot in practice protect them from the people they accused and that they are at the mercy of an impersonal and indifferent ‘system’. Having failed to take their accounts seriously in the first place (for example no written verbatim statement was ever taken as far as we can gather and no genuine attempt to elicit all the specific details that could have been) for eleven months there has been a concerted effort to deny them any opportunity to repeat the accusations. Even if informations were eventually laid in a magistrates court, the only witnesses could be the children, with all the obvious problems this involves. There is no practical chance of a successful prosecution now unless significant additional evidence is produced which clearly seems highly unlikely. Sadly therefore the case yet again illustrates the failure of the legal system in cases where children say they have been abused, and the yawning gulf that exists between concepts of justice and the reality, when applied to criminal procedure. We do not need to embroil ourselves in psycho-babble concerning this. It is a very human, practical problem of how for financial gain and sexual excitement, children can be abused twice. Once by the people who do it and twice by the people, for whatever corrupt reason, help to cover it up.”

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